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hi Ryan and summer in the skies

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listeners thanks Ryan for giving me this

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opportunity to tell my story

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um my name's Jamie and I live on the

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Gold Coast Australia my sighting took

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place on the 14th of July 2021 at around

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5 10 p.m I just want to preface this by

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saying I've always believed in UFOs and

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aliens

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um and was fascinated by the topic but

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um I've never looked much into it so if

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someone said to me oh do you believe in

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aliens

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um I'd be like yeah for sure but I yeah

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never really looked much into the topic

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I thought that there was only ever

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saucer shaped craft I didn't realize

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that there was other shapes

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and yeah as a kid I grew up in a small

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country town in Australia like somewhat

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in the outback so there wasn't much to

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do apart from you know go camping

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um or you know if you're at a sleepover

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we'd just be out on the trampoline

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looking at the stars

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um so I've looked at the skies most of

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my life and I've never seen anything uh

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apart from your normal satellite going

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across until this day so it was a normal

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work day for me I work from home

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um and I finish at five o'clock so I was

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on my way

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to the supermarket to pick up some

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things

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as I left my driveway I was traveling

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Southeast and I seen something in the

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sky and I thought it was a blimp I was

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so excited when I seen this blimp

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because I hadn't seen a blimp since I

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was six years old and I just wanted to

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see

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um what company was advertising on the

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blimp I was thinking like oh my God like

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I haven't seen that for so long what a

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cool idea and in Australia at the time

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there was such a hard lockdown like we

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couldn't cross States so I live 10

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minutes from the New South Wales border

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and my family or anyone couldn't cross

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so at that time there was almost no

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flights into Queensland it was like

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I think to the airport closest to my

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house that on one day there might be

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like two flights a day or three flights

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a day or something like

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it was a hard lockdown so when I seen

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something in the sky it was so exciting

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and I was like yeah oh my God it's a

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blimp how cool

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um

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so I was traveling

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um yeah Southeast and I'm driving

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towards a highway

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um and I'm noticing the blimp in the sky

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is getting lower it's not moving in a

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forward or left right trajectory it's

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just descending from the sky so I don't

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actually know how blimps move I don't

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even know if that is possible but that's

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what I was seeing so I didn't really

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think too much of it as I'm getting

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closer to the highway I'm almost

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directly underneath this blimp now but I

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realize it's not a blimp and it's a

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triangular shape

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is no distinct wings or anything like

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that it's

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I would say probably 10 stories up in my

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mind I'm thinking it's actually a lot

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lower than that but I know that

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potentially I'm over exaggerating the

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height in my head thinking oh my God it

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was so close but it was maybe about 10

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stories high and

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um it was quite large I would say it was

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the size easy of like a 747 or something

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like that

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um so it was this triangular black

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craft and it had

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three lights on each

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um Point uh and the lights were round

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and they were like a bluish white color

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I was freaking out my mind was going a

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million miles an hour because to me I'm

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just thinking like what is this this

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isn't a plane I work in the tourism

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industry I've traveled a lot I kind of

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have a rough idea of what planes are and

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kind of what they look like so I was

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like this is not a plane what is this

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and I'm still driving at this stage and

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this thing's traveling well it's not

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traveling it's at a complete standstill

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above the highway

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um pointing South towards Byron Bay and

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at 5 10 in the afternoon it on this

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particular Highway it is bumper to

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bumper it is packed

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um so I was thinking oh my God

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everyone's seeing this like what is this

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thing I was trying to call I couldn't

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get to my phone

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um I was driving like I didn't have my

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phone in my hand but through the

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Bluetooth in my car I was trying to call

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my

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partner and

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um I knew that this thing was too low

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for him to see from our house but I was

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still trying to call him telling him to

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get outside get outside and look up like

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you might be able to see what I'm seeing

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um so I get over the this thing also

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might I add no sound this is the other

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thing that was freaking me out because I

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was like one I was like a plane can't

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fly this low

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over the highway it can't if this thing

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isn't making any sound and

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it's not moving a plane can't it would

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fall out of the sky it can't just stay

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there like that so

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anyways

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I drive I take my exit 87 and I

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um cross over the highway and I look

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back in my review mirror and this

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thing's gone like there was no it was

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just completely gone I didn't see it

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take off and then I was thinking like

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how did that thing disappear like

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surely I would have heard a boom or

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something for it just to shoot off like

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that but

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um I heard absolutely nothing

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so following that I got to the

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supermarket and I caught I tried calling

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my sister who I knew she's had an

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experience before

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and I was thinking like if this thing

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was a UFO thinking in my head can can a

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UFO be a triangle shape

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um I wasn't quite sure but I I knew that

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this thing wasn't a plane and I couldn't

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I didn't know what it was but in my head

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I was like I think that was the UFO

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so yeah I tried calling my sister she

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didn't answer so I text her and

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um then when I got home I told my

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partner and for so long those were the

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only two people that I ever told because

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I was thinking no one is going to

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believe

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um me that I seen the UFO

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um but since then I've been able to

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share my story with work friends and

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um yeah some other close friends and

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everyone actually believed me whether

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they've

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seen it seen the UFO or not they're all

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just like kind of intrigued with my

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story so for months after that almost

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every day I was searching

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um the news and like Facebook thinking

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someone would have reported this someone

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would have seen exactly what I seen it's

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a busy day over the highway this thing

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is so low but never I've never heard

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anyone report it

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um I've never yeah seen anything of it

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and yeah so after that it kind of

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sparked my interest in UFOs and then I

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seen that

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through documentaries and different

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things that are triangular crafts and

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listening to Ryan's podcasts recently

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the triangles episode I was like yes

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that's what I saw I never saw the red

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light in the middle

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um the one that I saw it wasn't

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illuminated or I just didn't have one

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but yeah it was an absolutely crazy

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experience yeah so I guess how it's

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changed my life is that now I fully am

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involved in the topic like I love

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listening to the podcast and reading

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books and watching docos and all those

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different things

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yeah so I guess I'll constantly be

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looking up now to

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you know in the hopes to see the next

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one but thank you Ryan for letting me

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hi Ryan and uh somewhere in this guy's

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podcast listeners

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um my name's Jeff and uh I'm originally

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from Massachusetts but I live in Ireland

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on the East Coast

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I've always been interested in

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UFOs you know

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alien science fiction you know what

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since I was a kid

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but I never never really

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um I never saw anything in the sky or

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anything that couldn't be explained away

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as you know a plane or a helicopter

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something that was you know

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easily explained away that was until

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um we were was a summer time and we are

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walking home in the evening

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uh from the playground just probably

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around seven o'clock I would guess

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between 6 30 7 30 and um

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we were walking on the road that you

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overlooking the Irish sea so yeah we're

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walking along and it was myself my wife

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our daughter who was two at the time and

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our neighbors and their kids and I

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remember I just looked up at the sky and

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I saw this orange ball

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and um it looked like it was emanating

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from you could see that there was like a

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black shape almost like I'll describe

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like like the top of a bell

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or just some kind of there was some kind

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of structure on top of it that it seemed

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to be emanating from but it was like an

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orange ball

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and when you're looking at it

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it was shimmering as if you were looking

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at it through Heat

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you know like when you're looking down

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the highway like long road and it's hot

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out and you can see the heat shimmering

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off the road it like was like that but

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looking at it and it was shimmering like

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I was looking at it through heat sorry

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if I repeat myself but um I couldn't

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tell you what altitude it was

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um it was high but it wasn't it wasn't

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super high I don't know maybe a thousand

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feet it's it's hard to know but it was I

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just remember seeing it and just the

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first time I thought that's that's

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that's something strange that's what is

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that and I remember I tapped my friend

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and I said look at that what's up I'm

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this guy and I remember history I'm

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noting his reaction was weird he kind of

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got freaked out and was like oh it's

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it's nothing it's a helicopter and like

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Turned they didn't want to look at it

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which was I thought was a weird weird

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um reaction and uh

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the wives were having a conversation and

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tending to the kids so they really

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weren't looking at it so but I kept

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looking at it up in the sky and uh just

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thinking that's that's that's not

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something that's not a helicopter it's

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it's and then all of a sudden the the

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as if somebody turned a light switch it

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it disappeared like it was just gone it

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was there was no trace of it at all and

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I just thought that was really weird it

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was I've never quite seen anything like

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that before in my life

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so

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um

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but then I saw it again uh two days

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later I was driving this time it was the

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afternoon evening Sorry probably around

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I'd say maybe 6 30 or something I just

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collected my daughter from Child Care

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daycare and I was driving back and I was

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about to turn into our housing estate

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when uh above the road again there was

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the same thing from a different angle

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but the same thing it was an orange ball

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at glowing orange ball of light would

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like which looked like it was emanating

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from the bottom of something which like

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black almost it's like again like I'd

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say like a bell and um

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so I stopped my car and I pulled over

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and I was looking at it and same thing

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within I don't know could have been

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seconds not very long as if someone

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turned a light switch it just vanished

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and there was nothing there

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and uh

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yeah it was just my daughter was only

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two so she really doesn't remember it at

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but I just I just was left with the

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feeling like there's something that

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that's something more that was something

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different that I saw on this guy it was

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something

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not of this world I I don't know I'd

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like to think it it was but like I I am

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very I I want to believe but I'm very

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skeptical about things and but this one

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was just this one's hard to shake that

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was that I saw it twice and it just and

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the way it just vanished now I've seen

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you know things like you know Chinese

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lanterns in the sky and stuff like that

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and I was in Porto and Portugal and they

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did this whole thing where they lit

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lanterns like that and put them in the

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sky and this didn't look like any

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Chinese lantern this was just like a

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glowing orange ball

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and like I said and it was shimmering

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like you're looking at from through heat

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and in I don't need like a year ago I

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remember I was talking to a friend here

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who was into UFOs as well but he was

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telling me that

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because I described it to him and he

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said that you he he said like oh the

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shimmering thing that sounds like

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something he had read on Reddit or

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something where some theory that at a

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certain time in a day maybe they have

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some kind of

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they have a cloaking device and and at

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the certain time in a day when the light

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is changing or something like that that

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they they can't adjust or something like

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that so like you kind of get a glimpse

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of them and the shimmering as you're

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looking through the cloaking device

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I don't know like that's just what he

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said he had read but that was

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interesting that he said that to me

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after when I because I just thought it

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was just that she that it was didn't

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know that it was shimmering sorry and um

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I actually went on YouTube and Googled

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like UFOs in Ireland and I found one

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video which sadly I don't know where

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it's gone it's no longer there but

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somebody in a in a house in the country

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in Ireland had went out at the went out

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their front door and filmed and it was

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exactly with their phone and

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unfortunately this is 2011 so it was not

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a great footage but it was definitely

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the thing I saw in the sky anyway so the

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orange same orange ball looking like

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emanating from a black structure and um

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it's hard to see if it was shimmering on

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the phone but it was without a doubt

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what I saw and like I said when I saw

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this thing it wasn't moving through the

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sky it wasn't flying it was just like

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there no sound nothing and then just

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like a light gun so it's just like I

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said I'm left with wanting more I guess

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you know because I know I saw something

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that is hard to uh it's hard to explain

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away it can't be explained away it was

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not there was no sound it was wasn't

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anything human you know it wasn't

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anything aircraft of any kind that I

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that I know of

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so it's just uh yeah just left me

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feeling that there is something more out

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there

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but um I don't quite know don't have any

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confirmation what it was but anyway

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that's my story I hope that's good and

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uh thank you for giving me a chance to

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share it I appreciate it and I love the

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hi Ryan thanks for having me on some

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Skies my name is Ben I'm from Ireland

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I've had a number of weird encounters

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and sightings since I was a kid reading

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about it they already started back up

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again since early last year

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and I don't really know what to make of

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any but it's all very strange but I just

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wanted to start talking about it so I

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live at the foot of Montpellier Hill in

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Dublin where you can look up the hill

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and you can see the old hellfire club

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room at the top of it

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and to my North is the Irish Air Force

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is based the case with air drone

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and we're kind of in a flight path

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essentially we get the Irish Air Forces

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pc9s flying over we got all the

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passenger Jets and helicopters and

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the the Coast Guard as well they go over

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so my first reason sighting is in April

449
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2021

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it's the family's all in the house where

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we've got a family event though and I

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end up volunteered to go to the shelf so

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I get my right my stuff ready put my

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headphones in then I start walking

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and I'm coming through the estate I'm

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kind of in the middle

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and I look open there's this plane and I

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can hear it through my headphones so I

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kind of Pop the headphones out

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um this plane is really low over the

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estate like too low for what it should

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be really

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um and it's it's turning

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um it's not banged it's just kind of

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it's like it's a full y'all trying to

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turn

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um so I'm watching her I'm watching it

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coming out of the estate fly over and

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fly off and just find that weird but if

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it doesn't watch it I can see the flight

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path it's designed to take is going

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towards this red star off at the

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distance this is really bright red star

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it's quite low down on the horizon and I

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just keep watching I'm walking through

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the estate and it's just weird to me

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so it's it's just for reference this guy

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is fairly Bright Like It's Not Dark Yet

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it's gonna be but it's like this is a

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bright star for what it's

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so I keep watching that I keep watching

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this playing flying further and further

483
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further I'm sort of thought

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[Music]

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it's still not worth the star though but

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um I start where I'm walking the house

487
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is stuck in my the way of my view and I

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have to go into the shop so if I go in

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and I grab my stuff like I would

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and as I walk out of the shop and head

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to the Estates and get a view again of

492
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where it was I'm looking for that star

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and that star is gone that that red star

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that was so bright it's now darker again

495
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but the star should be even brighter but

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it's just completely gone

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so I'm I'm weird there with this and I

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just start walking home I'm gonna go

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okay no no problem then let's just go

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home

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I kind of I get to my driveway and I'm

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glancing at the mountain and I'm

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glancing back at the spot where that

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stair was the whole time

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and then when I look at the mountain

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itself there's these two white lights

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over and like

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the right amount of it was that what

509
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it's on it's not that common but there's

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farms and there's no roads and there's

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paths and stuff people sometimes just be

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up there with headlights and torches and

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stuff

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but I'm watching these two little lights

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down there they're kind of finding each

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other side by side and they go up and

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they just kind of move over and back

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and they're high enough up over the

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trees like they're not in the tree line

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anymore I thought they were lights on

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and at the time I thought it was drones

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like two drones flying together but

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it just doesn't really make a ton of

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sense to me when I consider the other

525
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things that happen after

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and that are including that playing as

527
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well I think that plane's related to

528
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stuff after but um yeah so my second

529
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encounter is in December the start of

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December that year

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um

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I'm coming back home it's really late

533
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like it's like half 11 or 12.

534
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and I'm walking through the Estates and

535
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as I'm walking I kind of look over at

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the mountain

537
00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:04,500
there's those two white lights again

538
00:23:09,169 --> 00:23:07,740
I'm just kind of watching oh there there

539
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:09,179
again they've come back over in the same

540
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kind of shape and Sciences before

541
00:23:16,669 --> 00:23:14,760
and as I'm watching there's more of them

542
00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:16,679
this time there's like

543
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three different objects distinct pop

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charts

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with these two pairs of white lights and

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one of them has a little flashing red

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light in the middle that kind of flashes

548
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a weird intervals

549
00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:29,520
I'm watching this I'm standing in my

550
00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:30,900
driveway like like an idiot just

551
00:23:39,049 --> 00:23:36,649
um these things are kind of flying off

552
00:23:42,289 --> 00:23:39,059
when they're going around and over them

553
00:23:44,029 --> 00:23:42,299
like if something guess like they're

554
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,039
if they're over the mountain where the

555
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:46,080
the hellfire club itself is these things

556
00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:48,840
are like car sites truck side is nerdy

557
00:23:53,690 --> 00:23:51,539
like they're big enough

558
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:53,700
so I I doubt they dropped otherwise

559
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,140
they're much closer and they're scanning

560
00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:57,840
a really weird part of the mountain

561
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,460
I keep watching them man they move off

562
00:24:03,169 --> 00:24:01,200
they move together they move around and

563
00:24:06,169 --> 00:24:03,179
they're flying off they're down and as

564
00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:06,179
I'm watching they all kind of come to

565
00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:08,340
the center over like a kind of a random

566
00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:10,280
spot over the forest

567
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,220
and they just kind of slowly drift off

568
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:15,840
if they all meet up in the middle and

569
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,860
they just kind of pick different

570
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:19,200
directions to go one of them goes to my

571
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,620
right one goes off to the left

572
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:24,000
decides to go over the back of the

573
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:25,740
mountain

574
00:24:30,049 --> 00:24:28,320
and I'm watching them and I just turn

575
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:30,059
around I just turn around and go into

576
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:31,860
the house

577
00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:34,260
and I'm I'm confused with this still

578
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:35,640
because

579
00:24:41,090 --> 00:24:38,340
if you hear this happen for people where

580
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:41,100
they they're like oh I just you know

581
00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:44,220
turned away and I went to sleep for I I

582
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:46,500
I kind of didn't expect it to happen

583
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:47,700
where you

584
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:51,000
I didn't have the catch myself and just

585
00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:52,380
stop myself and go no I should record

586
00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:55,020
this and turn around

587
00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:57,539
but I'm watching these weird lights move

588
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:00,120
off and move together and

589
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,460
move away and I don't even watch where

590
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,840
they go

591
00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:05,760
I just go inside and I'm

592
00:25:10,970 --> 00:25:08,039
it took like a day of me thinking about

593
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,980
it for me to go why did I do that

594
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:13,440
I have my phone moving

595
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,480
that freaks me out I never I never

596
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:17,039
experienced something like that

597
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,720
my first thought with these was that

598
00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:20,400
they're just problems with some sort

599
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:23,400
maybe mapping them out but like it's

600
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,460
just the way they move off and meet

601
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:29,520
together and then move off is so weird

602
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,400
it makes no sense right like why would

603
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:34,320
even on a practical side why would you

604
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:35,820
want all three of your drone operators

605
00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:37,080
if they're all going to different places

606
00:25:39,769 --> 00:25:38,820
they have to land somewhere what are you

607
00:25:42,529 --> 00:25:39,779
gonna put

608
00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:42,539
each of your guys like miles away from

609
00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:44,460
each other one in like a reservoir one

610
00:25:49,130 --> 00:25:46,500
of just a random mountain range I wanted

611
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,140
like a housing estate

612
00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:51,600
no it doesn't make any sense to me where

613
00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:53,159
they were moving if they were drones

614
00:25:57,049 --> 00:25:55,380
because they have to go somewhere they

615
00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:57,059
have to have another somewhere where

616
00:26:00,890 --> 00:25:58,500
they launched from and asked me an

617
00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:00,900
operator they'll recovery and

618
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:02,520
why would you not just put them all on

619
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:04,860
the mountain together so maybe three

620
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:06,360
weeks afterwards

621
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:08,580
yeah me and my friends are trying to

622
00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:10,860
walk through the park nearby us we're

623
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:12,299
trying to meet up with other friends

624
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:13,500
before Christmas to give each other

625
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:15,000
Christmas gifts

626
00:26:18,169 --> 00:26:16,320
and it's kind of late we come up after

627
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:18,179
too late we're walking through and it's

628
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,200
Pitch Black

629
00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:20,880
so we're going through the prior to the

630
00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:22,679
park has big street lights and stuff in

631
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:24,299
it so it's not too but

632
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,220
but uh all this stuff is still on my

633
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,840
mind so I'm telling everybody about this

634
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:29,760
the lights that I saw that I'm

635
00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:32,520
describing them how they moved and I

636
00:26:36,169 --> 00:26:34,260
described in the middle one the one with

637
00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:36,179
the middle red light the flashes in a

638
00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:38,100
strange pattern

639
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:40,740
and as I'm describing them it

640
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:43,860
it literally above us like look up and I

641
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:46,500
point up and I say to them it's that's

642
00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:48,659
it that's what I'm describing and it's

643
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:50,700
exactly the same it's the the middle red

644
00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:52,320
light that comes on and off in a weird

645
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:54,360
pattern and the two flanking lights the

646
00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:55,559
white lights

647
00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:58,260
and it's moving and it's moving kind of

648
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:00,360
gently it's moving side to side and it's

649
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,220
moving away it's kind of just going over

650
00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:04,799
the area and these two white lights look

651
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,120
like they're always facing so it's like

652
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:08,159
they're always directed towards you

653
00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:10,860
they're not like you're not losing side

654
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:12,299
of one light as it turns or something

655
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,860
it's just always visible

656
00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:15,600
so I'm weird that I look like this and

657
00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:16,860
I'm pointing off but I'm telling my

658
00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:18,360
friends like that's what it was that's

659
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,340
exactly what was over the mountain and

660
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,840
there's they're kind of glancing up and

661
00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:23,760
they're like yeah yeah it looks like a

662
00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:26,580
drone and then they just move on

663
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:28,380
these are people who've had experiences

664
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:29,700
that people have seen their own things

665
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:32,100
and they have crazy stories to tell and

666
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:33,059
this is

667
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:35,220
in front of them and they just lose

668
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,500
interest exactly the same way that I did

669
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:40,080
when I was at the door in my house it's

670
00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:41,580
just they just turned away and started

671
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:44,820
talking amongst themselves like

672
00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:47,940
it actually kind of it freaks me out I I

673
00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:49,620
don't like the odds of me talking about

674
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,240
that thing and then it just

675
00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:53,039
spontaneously appearing directly above

676
00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:56,039
me like that's not that's that's a hell

677
00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,380
of a coincidence and the very final

678
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:00,360
thing I've seen recently was only maybe

679
00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:03,240
a few days before I sent you this this

680
00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:06,419
email Ryan was I was in my garden I like

681
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,000
to glance open my sky and as I look up

682
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:11,520
this red streak just tears through the

683
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:13,559
sky and it only goes a little distance

684
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,720
before it just disappears

685
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:18,240
just gone but I thought it was a meteor

686
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:21,900
but like less than 30 seconds later two

687
00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:23,700
planes two planes come out of nowhere

688
00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:26,580
over the Estates just circling flying

689
00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:28,260
around they fly around for maybe two or

690
00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:30,059
three minutes before both of them head

691
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,059
off north towards the aerodrome and I

692
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:35,760
have no idea what that was about

693
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,580
so yeah those are my sightings yeah

694
00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:40,320
and I read I don't really know how I

695
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:42,539
feel about any of them honestly I'm a

696
00:28:45,049 --> 00:28:43,799
little bit freaked out more than I am

697
00:28:45,710 --> 00:28:45,059
anything else

698
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:45,720
um

699
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:48,120
those white lights that freaked me out

700
00:28:52,669 --> 00:28:50,460
because let alone that they don't seem

701
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,679
to be drones that they fly off in my

702
00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:54,240
directions

703
00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:56,580
I I've never experienced that feeling of

704
00:29:00,590 --> 00:28:58,500
just quarterly losing interest in

705
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:00,600
something moving on

706
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:02,460
especially especially for it to happen

707
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:04,860
when I describe them in the park for

708
00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:06,779
that thing the show straight back up and

709
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:09,059
give my friends the exact same feeling

710
00:29:13,549 --> 00:29:11,580
that that is bizarre to me I really

711
00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:13,559
don't know how to explain it thanks for

712
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,820
having me on I'm going to appreciate the

713
00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:16,440
chance to talk about these things uh

714
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:23,389
hey Ryan thanks for this opportunity for

715
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:26,460
me to be able to tell everybody about my

716
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,360
possible UAP experience while serving in

717
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:33,840
the Australian military in 2009

718
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:36,600
um a bit about my background I did 15

719
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:38,820
years in the Australian defense Sports

720
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:41,340
the first 11 in the Navy as an

721
00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:43,559
Electronics technician for weapons and

722
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,659
radar in the last four years is a

723
00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:48,000
military working dog handler with the

724
00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:49,980
military police because biological is

725
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,020
just the same as electronical combat

726
00:29:58,669 --> 00:29:55,200
systems isn't it so anyway

727
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,679
um I was posted of the letter to work at

728
00:30:03,409 --> 00:30:00,360
a remote base

729
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,419
in the Australian Outback not far from a

730
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,279
town called Catherine in the Northern

731
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,640
Territory and it was around the end of

732
00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:11,820
the dry season in September and we were

733
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,480
hosting International exercises with the

734
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:18,240
Americans as uh is widely publicized

735
00:30:21,850 --> 00:30:21,000
every single year and this year was no

736
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,860
different

737
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:23,600
and

738
00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:27,659
I it was weekends

739
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:30,899
I was on night shift so I started about

740
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:36,179
Sunset and I usually work with uh one

741
00:30:40,190 --> 00:30:38,039
particular colleague who was on rested

742
00:30:43,389 --> 00:30:40,200
on with me that night uh a general

743
00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:43,399
Judy's police member and my police dog

744
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:47,399
and we loaded up the truck drove down to

745
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:49,440
the flight line now in this particular

746
00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:51,779
place the flight line is dispersed in

747
00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:54,600
Bushland which means that they don't the

748
00:30:59,870 --> 00:30:57,299
craft don't sit on a nice concrete pad

749
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,880
all lined up in a row

750
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:01,440
um with spotlights on it this is

751
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,960
dispersed in the dark with around five

752
00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:05,600
kilometer radius

753
00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:08,940
and in between each

754
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:13,260
um Olas or old misloading areas where

755
00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:14,700
they sit in

756
00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:16,620
um is heavy thick Bushland they're just

757
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,340
taxiways okay so imagine that you can

758
00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:22,679
see it on Google Maps if you look it up

759
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:25,380
and to give an idea about this place if

760
00:31:33,169 --> 00:31:28,320
any of you visit Northern Australia

761
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,179
um it's hot wet or hot and dry and this

762
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:36,240
isn't a drop and dry season

763
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:38,940
um and the wildlife is quite thick it's

764
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:40,740
like being on the planet dagger bar and

765
00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:42,299
Yoda's about to jump out you and

766
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:44,039
pterodactyls and all that kind of stuff

767
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:47,600
so it's bats kangaroos snakes spiders

768
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:50,580
and stuff you don't even recognize so

769
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:53,460
that's just put picture this so anyway

770
00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:55,440
we get out there at about Just Before

771
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,340
Sunset and unpack everything and start

772
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,919
walking the perimeter and chatting to my

773
00:32:06,889 --> 00:32:03,600
colleague because we're good friends as

774
00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:06,899
well outside of work and he started

775
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:09,299
telling me a story about how in

776
00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:11,340
September the year before he was

777
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,000
patrolling with another Handler and he

778
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:17,640
had a UFO sighting and with my

779
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:20,640
background and I love astronomy and I'm

780
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,440
a science fiction nerd and I'm pretty

781
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:24,480
kooky even though I sound pretty

782
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:25,740
straight laced

783
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:28,380
um I was like hell yeah hell tell me all

784
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:30,179
about it he told me his story about

785
00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:33,000
three stars flying overhead stopping on

786
00:32:37,610 --> 00:32:35,240
a dime and then suddenly

787
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:37,620
dispersing in a split second in all

788
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,140
different directions and that was it

789
00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:42,720
and I'm like holy like that's

790
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,539
amazing but where we are and what we're

791
00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:47,600
doing right here that could be anything

792
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,919
okay and Catherine is one of the UFO hot

793
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:55,200
spots of the world especially at that

794
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:59,520
time of the year right so anyway

795
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:01,260
um we start walking the sun's starting

796
00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:05,220
to sit and we noticed this place usually

797
00:33:09,769 --> 00:33:07,799
has a lot of bats a job bat colony and

798
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:09,779
it's full of teeming with life I mean

799
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:11,940
everything's alive and everything's got

800
00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:15,120
something alive on it so no kangaroos

801
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:17,159
you name it and there was just like

802
00:33:21,889 --> 00:33:19,980
nothing and I put it down to maybe the

803
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:21,899
bats had moved on because they were kind

804
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,600
of troublesome and um at the time

805
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:27,059
interfering with the aircraft and also

806
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,220
we had a recent kangaroo crawl so I

807
00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:30,720
thought that the hunters had gone to

808
00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:32,519
town just erased a lot of them off the

809
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:33,720
face of the Earth

810
00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:35,820
so that's what I put it down too and I

811
00:33:39,649 --> 00:33:38,039
didn't think anything more of it anyway

812
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,659
so we're walking on the perimeter

813
00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:41,399
walking along

814
00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:44,580
laughing about this story and my dog

815
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:48,840
suddenly stops dead in his tracks and my

816
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:50,940
dog wasn't the most best place dog in

817
00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:53,460
the world he was quite friendly quite

818
00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:56,279
soft quite distracted and quite

819
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,200
uninterested in being a police dog he

820
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:00,720
was just wanting to be a cat on your lap

821
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:03,360
that was about it so he stops on a dime

822
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:04,980
and he's looking

823
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,060
at the Horizon up

824
00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:11,280
and I'm thinking maybe someone's gonna

825
00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:13,800
do an exercise with me or something like

826
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:15,659
that what fun on the weekend when

827
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:17,460
nobody's doing anything

828
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:19,980
uh because my dog really needs it and

829
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:22,139
then he starts growling and my colleague

830
00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:25,560
oh my god look oh my god there they are

831
00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:29,399
and I looked up and no there were

832
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:32,820
three Starlight objects flying towards

833
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:34,200
us

834
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:37,260
in a sort of like a very wide fee

835
00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:39,300
formation so not a straight line in the

836
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,879
middle one slightly forward about the

837
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:43,740
size of the planet Venus on a good day

838
00:34:47,770 --> 00:34:45,419
you know when it looks big

839
00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:47,780
no flashing lights nothing like that

840
00:34:53,570 --> 00:34:51,300
slowly flying in perfect formation and

841
00:34:55,849 --> 00:34:53,580
just stopped right there they're about

842
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,859
10 degrees apart which is like when you

843
00:35:00,530 --> 00:34:57,359
look up you put your hand up it's about

844
00:35:01,730 --> 00:35:00,540
a hand span and a 45 degree angle line

845
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:01,740
of sight

846
00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:03,660
and let's just stop there

847
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:06,540
and I'm like my my mate is this what

848
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:08,099
you're talking about and he's like yeah

849
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,040
yeah this is it

850
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:13,200
and he goes they're gonna just like

851
00:35:17,569 --> 00:35:15,300
disappear in a minute and we're looking

852
00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:17,579
looking and nothing's happening and they

853
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:19,260
just stopped there and it was like this

854
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:20,520
feeling like

855
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,260
they're looking at us we're looking at

856
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,960
that and it was like this weird feeling

857
00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:26,640
it was like we're just all looking at

858
00:35:31,609 --> 00:35:29,160
each other right now and my dog starts

859
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:31,619
barking which he never does even when

860
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:34,560
he's supposed to so I'm like my God my

861
00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:36,180
dog can see this

862
00:35:42,290 --> 00:35:40,380
and just as I was like thinking about a

863
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:42,300
radio my boss and ask if we've got any

864
00:35:46,609 --> 00:35:44,339
unscheduled scheduled but not really

865
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:46,619
scheduled flying activity going on and

866
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,619
as I was calling him the outer tooth

867
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:52,560
objects just add the opposite direction

868
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,380
from each other just went like

869
00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:57,359
flew away I'd never seen anything like

870
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,180
this I've I've been in The Radars it's

871
00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:02,160
all like world I've seen all sorts of

872
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:03,960
weird crap nothing like the Nimitz or

873
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:05,940
anything but since lots of weird crap

874
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:08,700
see nothing that flies this fast and I'm

875
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,380
on a base with fighter jets and all

876
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:13,200
sorts of craps so it's like no this is

877
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:14,880
the fastest I've ever seen But the

878
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:17,760
middle one state the middle object state

879
00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:19,560
and we're looking at it waiting for it

880
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:21,900
to do something and I spoke to my boss

881
00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:23,640
is there any unscheduled scheduled but

882
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,020
not really scheduled stuff and he's like

883
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:27,359
no leaving me alone get on with your job

884
00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:28,800
bye

885
00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:31,560
and I'm like well this is nothing nobody

886
00:36:34,730 --> 00:36:33,240
knows that does know that knows nothing

887
00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:34,740
about

888
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,859
and it just stayed there this thing and

889
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,560
my dog's barking he's going crazy his

890
00:36:46,430 --> 00:36:42,240
hair's sticking up

891
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:46,440
my dog never does this and then

892
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:49,260
there was this smell

893
00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:51,420
and the Aussie Bush smells like wet

894
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:54,599
trees and dust that's what it smells

895
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,359
like sometimes flowers and animal poop

896
00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:59,520
or animal carcasses this was an

897
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:00,900
electrical smell

898
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,720
kind of like what people say ozone but

899
00:37:07,849 --> 00:37:06,240
to me no not really it was kind of like

900
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:07,859
you opened up an old radar cabinet and

901
00:37:13,130 --> 00:37:10,740
all that wafter of old people's home and

902
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:13,140
old rusty metal come flying out at you

903
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,260
that's what it smelled like a special

904
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:18,720
something and I'm like where the hell is

905
00:37:25,250 --> 00:37:21,960
that smell coming from there's no wind

906
00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:25,260
um nothing like that no animals no

907
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:28,040
sounds just this

908
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:32,700
stench this star in the setting sun sky

909
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:36,180
my dog growling and my colleague and I

910
00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:37,800
are just standing there and I'm getting

911
00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:40,380
Jelly legs you know because you know

912
00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:44,700
Brave Soldier and all that and uh just

913
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,700
as I said that stinks like an old radar

914
00:37:51,950 --> 00:37:50,400
cabinet then the noise started well it

915
00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:51,960
wasn't actually a noise it was more like

916
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:53,460
a vibration

917
00:38:00,349 --> 00:37:56,820
that I could only feel in my sinus

918
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,359
cavities and my forage and my lips and

919
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:01,920
kind of a little bit of my chest it was

920
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:05,040
more of a feeling rather than a sound an

921
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:07,500
audible hump but I think my dog could

922
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:09,660
pick it up long before we did because he

923
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:12,420
was going nuts he was trying to bite off

924
00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:16,440
his uh lead he was growling his Tails

925
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,079
between his legs and I'm like I'm trying

926
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:21,599
to calm him down thinking holy crap I'm

927
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:23,400
looking around there's nothing out of

928
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,980
the ordinary around us at all so we're

929
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:28,320
trying to calm him down and get his toy

930
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,240
out and we've got to do this Patrol and

931
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:31,680
we're keeping an eye waiting for this

932
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,720
thing to do what my colleague said the

933
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:35,579
last year it did nothing

934
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:37,380
but it didn't do it

935
00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:40,260
and then it just started getting

936
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:42,780
brighter and then dimmer and then

937
00:38:47,569 --> 00:38:45,359
brighter and dimmer again like a beacon

938
00:38:49,329 --> 00:38:47,579
really slowly

939
00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:49,339
and just sitting there

940
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:52,200
and I'm like I don't know what's oh what

941
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:55,140
do you what do you say to this uh phone

942
00:39:01,490 --> 00:38:58,500
camera it's 2008 I've got a Samsung I

943
00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:01,500
think it's a Galaxy S2 it wasn't going

944
00:39:07,790 --> 00:39:04,260
to capture that and yeah I'm trying to

945
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:07,800
control my dog my colleagues

946
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:10,260
telling me we're having discussions

947
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:13,500
about independence day and you know Star

948
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,240
Trek the Balkan greetings it's also

949
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,280
didn't happen anyway we have to do this

950
00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:19,280
Patrol we're moving around the perimeter

951
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,740
Sun's below the Horizon this thing is

952
00:39:26,810 --> 00:39:24,960
still stationary in fact it's

953
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,820
geostationary we've figured out because

954
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,800
we watched the Stars over about an hour

955
00:39:33,050 --> 00:39:30,000
or two

956
00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:33,060
move as they do and this thing was still

957
00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:35,099
exactly where it stopped we did a whole

958
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:36,420
perimeter

959
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:39,000
of the flight line and this thing was

960
00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:41,220
still exactly where it stopped

961
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,740
and I'm still now doing this slow bright

962
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:45,359
and dim thing

963
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:50,180
and we're cutting through going around

964
00:39:55,730 --> 00:39:54,119
my dog's jumping at every everything and

965
00:39:57,530 --> 00:39:55,740
looking over his shoulder and all this

966
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:57,540
stuff I've got flashlights going we're

967
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:00,780
all looking with flashlights nothing

968
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:04,920
it had a break it got to about two or

969
00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:06,780
three in the morning

970
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:08,520
um we went back to the truck which was

971
00:40:12,849 --> 00:40:09,900
parked in the middle of all this

972
00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:12,859
dispersed stuff at one of the overlays

973
00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:15,420
and was sitting at the front I put my

974
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:16,859
dog in the truck because he was just

975
00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:18,780
about to lose all his hair at that point

976
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:21,180
and uh he quietened down when he was

977
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:23,280
inside and my colleague and I were

978
00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:26,240
laying on the tarmac watching this thing

979
00:40:31,069 --> 00:40:29,099
the whole time and there's smell and

980
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,079
there's humming and coming up with all

981
00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:33,359
the reasons what this could possibly be

982
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:34,500
and

983
00:40:38,089 --> 00:40:37,020
I'm racking my brains I don't know what

984
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:38,099
it is

985
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:41,820
so I get up and my colleague went to go

986
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,640
and relieve himself in in the bush

987
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:47,280
and I'm standing looking into the

988
00:40:52,609 --> 00:40:50,400
distance and and the most heavily dense

989
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:52,619
uh bush area

990
00:40:58,970 --> 00:40:55,619
one of the corners of the area we're

991
00:41:01,310 --> 00:40:58,980
patrolling I could see this glow it was

992
00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:01,320
orange in color kind of like a fire it

993
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:03,420
was flickering like a fire

994
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,359
and scrub fires are not unusual at that

995
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,119
time of year especially in this area so

996
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:11,760
this these spies do spontaneously happen

997
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:14,280
because under the bases an underwater

998
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:16,920
river system and cave system and the

999
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:20,640
fires do burn I I don't ask me about the

1000
00:41:25,609 --> 00:41:22,440
science of this but it does sort and

1001
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,619
they pop up every now and then so um I

1002
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:27,119
thought maybe it's something like that

1003
00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:28,980
and the smell is getting heavier and I'm

1004
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:30,420
like supposed to be where the smell is

1005
00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:32,760
coming from in the hammy so my Macaulay

1006
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,740
comes back and I he goes what the hell

1007
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,300
is that and I said it looks like scrub

1008
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:38,400
fire so we call the fieries

1009
00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:40,740
and so we've got a possible scrub fire

1010
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:42,540
could you please come out and they say

1011
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,980
look have a look at it first tell if

1012
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:46,260
it's a big one if it is become splash of

1013
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:47,940
water on it if not it will get it will

1014
00:41:53,329 --> 00:41:51,180
go out itself all right so start walking

1015
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,339
towards it I get I didn't want to take

1016
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:55,440
my dog out but I took dog I took the dog

1017
00:41:58,910 --> 00:41:56,160
out

1018
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:58,920
and he was virtually skidding backwards

1019
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:00,900
as we were trying to walk forwards

1020
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:05,760
towards this light glow of Orange

1021
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:08,520
and we got to about 15 minute meters

1022
00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:10,440
when my dog was virtually crawling up my

1023
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:13,260
back of my pants that at that point and

1024
00:42:18,589 --> 00:42:16,560
growling from between my legs and it was

1025
00:42:22,849 --> 00:42:18,599
this glow would have been about it

1026
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,859
looked like a ball of flame but not

1027
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:26,339
nice smoke now burning smell and it was

1028
00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:28,380
kind of a weird looking flame it was

1029
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:30,920
kind of everything was Misty in between

1030
00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:34,160
kind of like someone had a smoke machine

1031
00:42:40,609 --> 00:42:38,280
and just made this Haze of a ball thing

1032
00:42:42,890 --> 00:42:40,619
um about three meters wide about the

1033
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:42,900
same tall in the middle of a very

1034
00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:45,960
heavily densely bushed like stretch of

1035
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:47,820
area

1036
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,500
um that's what it would look like and I

1037
00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:51,839
was looking at it going what the hell

1038
00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:54,740
and I could see something in it

1039
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:58,440
uh squinted my eyes and this is where it

1040
00:43:02,089 --> 00:42:59,819
gets weird

1041
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:02,099
it looked like there was a pair of legs

1042
00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:05,460
in there like not like standing in there

1043
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:09,420
burning like legs cut out shape of legs

1044
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:12,900
in this light and there was no body

1045
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:14,940
attached to it there's no feet all I

1046
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:16,200
could see was

1047
00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:19,260
a pair of skinny little thighs knees

1048
00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:22,859
well I thought were nubbly knees and the

1049
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,380
top part calves and then that's obscured

1050
00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:27,680
by this orange

1051
00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:31,079
flamy glowy thing

1052
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,140
and I'm like we've got an intruder

1053
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:37,440
and call the fieries and qualifiers to

1054
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:38,760
come out

1055
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,260
and

1056
00:43:43,849 --> 00:43:42,420
they saw it they were as they were

1057
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:43,859
coming up they could see the light we're

1058
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:45,780
talking about they came rushing it and

1059
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:48,180
just as they arrived the light blinks

1060
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,560
out

1061
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,079
like someone turned off a switch

1062
00:43:56,809 --> 00:43:54,960
and we're still like 15 meters away I

1063
00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:56,819
don't know how many feet that is three

1064
00:44:02,030 --> 00:43:59,819
feet of a meter you calculate and

1065
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:02,040
the driver said what the hell is that

1066
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:04,140
I'm like I don't know let's have a look

1067
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,400
you have a look

1068
00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:06,720
so

1069
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,180
um they took the truck towards it we're

1070
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:11,520
walking behind the truck very slowly

1071
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:14,700
and they've shown spotlights on it and I

1072
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,680
dragged my dog by the Scruff of his neck

1073
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:18,900
virtually and my colleague

1074
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,220
they get to the corner where this

1075
00:44:24,050 --> 00:44:21,839
Bushland is you can't actually access

1076
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:24,060
that place you're almost standing at the

1077
00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:26,940
edge of the taxiway and looking in it

1078
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:29,940
would have been about five ten meters in

1079
00:44:37,390 --> 00:44:33,180
and there was just like this empty patch

1080
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:37,400
this oval shaped empty patch of gray Ash

1081
00:44:43,069 --> 00:44:40,619
and sand

1082
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:43,079
and there was no vegetation in this

1083
00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:45,300
where this flight was there was no

1084
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:47,880
footprints there was absolutely nothing

1085
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:50,640
but it's heavily pushed right so there

1086
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:52,740
was trees and stuff hoving overhanging

1087
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:53,940
it

1088
00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:55,980
and they were untouched there was no

1089
00:45:00,109 --> 00:44:58,260
Scorch mats nothing there was no smoke

1090
00:45:02,210 --> 00:45:00,119
there's no warmth

1091
00:45:03,790 --> 00:45:02,220
nothing to what I would say is in a

1092
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:03,800
Bushfire

1093
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:06,839
and the fire was like

1094
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,599
this is weird and they asked me what the

1095
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,760
hell is that smell and I'm like yeah can

1096
00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:13,980
you hear that Harmon and that the driver

1097
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:16,020
said he couldn't but my colleague and I

1098
00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:17,819
could definitely feel it and I'm pretty

1099
00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:19,319
certain my dog could

1100
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,380
and they sprayed some water on it

1101
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:24,480
because that solves everything in the

1102
00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:26,520
firing well so call us if it starts up

1103
00:45:31,490 --> 00:45:29,339
again and go away and drive back

1104
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:31,500
and left myself my colleague and my dog

1105
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,579
standing there and we legged it we

1106
00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:38,160
legged it my dog didn't need to even be

1107
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:40,140
told where I wanted to go it was like

1108
00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:42,660
hold on to my dog's lead and he was

1109
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,020
straight to the truck

1110
00:45:50,809 --> 00:45:47,940
meanwhile this thing is still flashing

1111
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,819
above us which I in the excitement and

1112
00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:52,859
everything both my colleague and I had

1113
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,839
forgotten to mention to the fires like

1114
00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:57,359
have a look at this

1115
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:01,619
um they totally didn't I forgot you know

1116
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,380
we went back to that truck faster than

1117
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:07,200
you could say holy crap I put my dog in

1118
00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:10,140
the enclosure at the back locked it up

1119
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:12,660
and we're just standing there looking at

1120
00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:13,740
this

1121
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,339
pulsing whatever it was above us and

1122
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:20,400
looking far in the distance where that

1123
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:22,500
orange light was waiting for it to come

1124
00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:23,520
back

1125
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,980
or working waiting for et to come and

1126
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:27,839
you know tap us on the shoulder or

1127
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,260
something like that nothing

1128
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:33,180
the humming was still there the smell

1129
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:34,680
was still there

1130
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:36,540
my dog was calm as soon as he went

1131
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,300
inside his little box he was calm by

1132
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:41,400
this stage it was about 4am

1133
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,599
it'd be non-stop all evening like and I

1134
00:46:49,329 --> 00:46:47,760
was not gonna report this I was not

1135
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:49,339
going to because

1136
00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:53,460
everyone knows I'm a bit kooky and I was

1137
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,319
the only female one section at the time

1138
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:58,079
and it was hard enough and I just didn't

1139
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,760
need extra problems so and it's 2008 you

1140
00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:05,040
know and so

1141
00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:07,980
um about 4am we did a drive-by again

1142
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:10,740
this thing's still in the sky

1143
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:12,540
and then I don't know what made me look

1144
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:15,720
up but I looked up again and it was

1145
00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:17,579
getting smaller it was still flashing

1146
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:21,060
very slowly but getting smaller

1147
00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:23,400
and smaller and smaller and I'm like to

1148
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:26,460
my colleague it's going it's leaving

1149
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:30,180
and he's looking up going it's going to

1150
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:31,920
Fletch Away really quickly and we're

1151
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:33,540
waiting for it to do something dramatic

1152
00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:36,420
and it didn't it just slowly raised and

1153
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,420
disappeared into the sky

1154
00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:42,960
and the humming and the smell slowly

1155
00:47:47,809 --> 00:47:45,060
dissipated over the course of the next

1156
00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:47,819
hour until five where I had to get back

1157
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:50,220
to the section to do a Handover

1158
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,260
and I really don't even know if I wanted

1159
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:53,760
to go back to the city I wanted to get

1160
00:47:57,410 --> 00:47:55,380
the hell out of there but I wanted to

1161
00:47:59,210 --> 00:47:57,420
stick around you know as well I didn't

1162
00:48:01,250 --> 00:47:59,220
want to leave the place I'm like I want

1163
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,260
to see if something else happens

1164
00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:04,079
but nothing else happened but at Sunrise

1165
00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:05,819
it's usually when the kangaroos come out

1166
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,280
again and the bats do their big thing

1167
00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:10,079
nothing

1168
00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:16,920
there was no birds there was no bats

1169
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:19,500
there was no kangaroos usually the

1170
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:21,660
kangaroos like kamikaze pilots jumping

1171
00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:23,099
into the car just as you're passing

1172
00:48:28,190 --> 00:48:25,800
nothing it was to void and it's only

1173
00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:28,200
until we got back to the section that

1174
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:30,300
started seeing you know the usual

1175
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,040
Sunrise Wildlife uh on the base

1176
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,640
and I spoke to my fiction Commander at

1177
00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:40,740
the shift change over the next day who

1178
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:42,359
drugged got me drug tested pretty

1179
00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:45,180
quickly and my colleague and told us

1180
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,680
that it was obviously a scrub fire

1181
00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:48,480
underground scrap fire probably hit

1182
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:49,859
something metal that's what the smell

1183
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:51,480
was and the rest of it were just making

1184
00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:53,700
it up and don't you dare ride anything

1185
00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:55,800
like that any of the reports because

1186
00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:57,480
you're all liars

1187
00:49:01,790 --> 00:48:59,700
anyway

1188
00:49:04,010 --> 00:49:01,800
from that time on

1189
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,020
I've never ever been able to talk about

1190
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:06,480
it really I just talk about it with that

1191
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,460
same colleague was still friends I live

1192
00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:10,079
in Germany now and I work with military

1193
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:13,380
radar systems once more and I still

1194
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:15,180
haven't heard or haven't seen anything

1195
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:18,660
or any stories uh anything remotely

1196
00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:21,599
similar to what I've seen and experience

1197
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:23,819
and I've I've trust me I'm out there all

1198
00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:26,280
the time when I can look in and it

1199
00:49:30,589 --> 00:49:28,020
hasn't I haven't seen anything like that

1200
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,599
ever since and

1201
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:32,880
um no Men In Black came to me nobody

1202
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:34,680
wanted to know nobody asked me any

1203
00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:37,680
questions and everybody just thinks it's

1204
00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:40,380
a great old story and I'm spinning it

1205
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:43,020
but I'm telling you that sort of sore I

1206
00:49:46,849 --> 00:49:44,819
can't explain it

1207
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:46,859
I sometimes dream about the legs

1208
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:49,560
sometimes and uh

1209
00:49:55,790 --> 00:49:53,700
yeah that's that's how it went and the

1210
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:55,800
next time I was out on shift nothing

1211
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:57,420
ever happened

1212
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:00,720
and trust me I was looking for it and

1213
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:02,760
saw nothing heard nothing and my dog

1214
00:50:10,450 --> 00:50:05,880
just continued on as per normal until

1215
00:50:13,580 --> 00:50:10,460
I got out so that's my UAP strange story

1216
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:13,590
thanks for listening

1217
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,370
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1218
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,300
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